A small spice box made at De Klaauw circa 1720

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A small spice box made at De Klaauw circa 1720

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In de 19de eeuw is er een hernieuwde interesse in Chinees porselein en Delfts aardewerk. Franse en Hollandse aardewerkfabrieken nemen daarom Delfts Blauw uit de 17de en 18de eeuw opnieuw in productie en imiteren veel bestaand aardewerk. De maker van dit object heeft zijn best gedaan een specerijendoos van plateelfabriek De Klaauw na te maken. De schilder heeft ook de signatuur van de eigenaar Johannes van Lockhorst nageschilderd. Aan de soort beschildering en de gebruikte blauwe kleursoort is echter te zien dat het hier niet om een origineel product van De Klaauw gaat.

Dear Susan

I have to respectfully disagree with your conclusion

I have examined this box closely and I am sure it a genuine 18thC piece.

The cobalt blue colour is identical to the blue found on other IVL marked pieces I have in my collection and I have included another photo to illustrate the similarity.

I agree with you that the decoration is atypical for Dutch Delftware and owns many of its design elements to French Rouen wares. I believe that this is the case because it was made for the French market and was made to compete with the wares being produced in Rouen and Nevers.

For me the definitive proof is in the red decoration which is not of the even 19th C type but has the coarse burnt appearance which you find on genuine 18th C Dutch Delftware.

Jan van Zijl

Dear Jan,

You may like these photo's of a Delft plate by IVL.

The format of the box is familiair to me as well.

The colours are indeed somewhat pale on your box and normally indicate a fake.

In this case, I would believe your box to be real.

IVL plate

Dear Jeroen

Thank you for your reaction.

I agree with you, as far as I can be sure, this box is genuine.

It is interesting that most IVL pieces turn up in France these days.

For a long time I considered them to be fake imitations as well, particularly because few

of the early Delft collections contain IVL marked pieces. Also because many dealers advertised

these pieces as late 17th century which they certainly were not.

After purchasing a few pieces I changed my mind and I think that most of the IVL

pieces that I have seen were Dutch Delft made for the French market and date from the 1730s.

This link with the French market is interesting as early (circa 1700) pieces of Metaale Pot and Grieksche A

Delftware now turn up in the French market.

De Klaauwe, De Metale Pot and De Grieksche A must have been very active in exporting their wares to France

in the 1690-1720 time period

Regards Jan

Dear Jan,

Very true, a lot of delftware in France these days. And as you say, especially a lot of De Grieksche A in France. I remember from the books from De Gemeentemuseum in Den Haag books, that De Grieksche A even had dealers that had exclusive rights to sell De Grieksche A wares in Metropolitan Paris. And I have some plates from APK that mimic Rouen wares. You don't find those anywhere else. And the French were the first real collectors of Delftware around before 1900. The Dutch did not care much for it before 1880, I think.

De Claeuw factory did indeed make a lot of polychrome wares with designs similar to the box that were indeed sold often in France. A lot ended up in the USA as well, but that is maybe because French immigrants brought items with them. Ebay people do often ask a little bit too much money for IVL plates, unfortunately. And most often they only sell plates. But the designs are almost always fresh and light!

Check out this cow please! IVL cow

Germany seems to have imported a lot of early Delftware from "De 3 Astonne" You see a lot of Gerrit Kam (GK) and Pieter Kam (PK). I guess that when Meissen started with porecelain around 1720 and you had all these silly wars, the Germans stopped buying Delftware. Maybe I am wrong though :-)

Kindest regards,

Jeroen

Very nice and rare spice box. This is genuine !

Regards,