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Blue and white plate with yellow rim, chinoiserie

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Voorwerp
Materiaal
Decoratie

Hand painted decor that looks like traditional Chinese chrysanthemum, painted underglaze, little pinholes in the glaze. Very good overall condition, minimal chipping and signs of use. Heavy (-ier than my Fortuyn plate).

Vraag

Is it possible to identify where and when this could have been made?

Afmetingen
Diameter ~23 cm, height ~3,5 cm
Collectie
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Reacties 8

I found a similar plate on an antiques dealer's website. It would date from around 1730 to 1750, has a diameter of 34 cm (this should also be the case with you if it is authentic) and, as Jan indicates, is indeed painted on glaze and not under glaze. Could have been produced in Delft itself and then it would have to have been in the period of Marcelis de Vlucht (1701 - 1750) where indeed no logo was applied. Greetings Franky

With Underglaze technique, painting is done directly on the clay fired for the first time, then (tin) glaze is sprayed on it and then fired for the second time at a slightly lower temperature. With overglaze, the glaze is first applied, painted on and then baked again so that the paint "melts" with the glaze. The underglaze is (usually) highly glossy and the overglaze slightly matt. You can also slightly feel the drawing with overglaze.

Thank you! I understand how the techniques are different, thanks for the "melts" with the glaze explanation, that makes it more specific for me. I probably need to look at more confirmed overglaze dishes to learn to see the difference, because for now it's not at all obvious to me, as a noob in pottery. Looks pretty much as shiny as newer marked with years De Porceleyne Fles items I have. I could say I do feel a bit of relief, but it's not like I could feel the drawing... only some points where the pigment is the darkest, feels a bit like "bump". Could it be something like this? https://delftsaardewerk.nl/bekijken/voorwerp/carla-van-wilgen/8279-bord… 
I am a bit confused about your comment re diameter, would appreciate if you could share a bit more on the sizes. Is there a link or reference I could learn more from?
Many thanks again for your inputs.

Verdict:

  • Delftware

Analysis:

  • Delftware, made between 1620 – 1850 Only tin-glazed earthenware made in Delft between 1620 - 1850 is referred to as traditional Delftware. Read more
  • Tin-glazed earthenware Earthenware with a glaze to which tin oxide has been added to make it opaque white. Delftware produced before 1850 is always covered with a tin glaze. Read more
  • Hand-painted An important characteristic of authentic Delftware is that it is hand-painted. Printing techniques do not occur on this earthenware. Read more
  • No mark visible No mark is visible in the photos. If it is present, please add some extra photos of the bottom or the back of the object.